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The Guide To Avoiding Counterfeit NHL Jerseys

Posted in Counterfeit Jerseys with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on June 1, 2012 by prostocknation

This is – M from ProStockNation’s guide to educating buyers so they can avoid getting stuck with counterfeit NHL jerseys.  We depict a FAKE New York Rangers Ryan Callahan jersey in this example but the the same basics apply to other teams and players.

Those who purchase knockoff jerseys do not help support their favorite teams, but rather contribute to organized crime and slave labor.

Counterfeit jerseys are constantly evolving and they are getting much more difficult to spot.  The fakes usually stick out like a sore thumb but this is one of the “better” knockoffs that I have seen.

First of all, purchase your jerseys from an authorized dealer.  If you are looking on eBay, Craigslist or your local flea market and someone is selling these for under $100, it should draw immediate red flags.  Reebok does not sell “wholesale” to the public.  Why would Reebok sell their jerseys through these shady sellers rather than their regular channels of distribution?  It doesn’t make sense on any level.  Just keep in mind if the deal is too good to be true, it probably is.

Being knowledgeable about what you are buying is the #1 method of preventing yourself from buying a fake.  There are 4 different grades of legitimate jerseys.  Jerseys with names and numbers are inconsistent depending on where and who has done the customizing.

i.  Reebok Premier 7185.  This is sometimes referred to as the “replica” or “semi-pro.”  They normally range anywhere between $100-$140 blank.  They are manufactured in Asia and they are a lower grade jersey than what the players wear on the ice.  The front crests are embroidered but are glued onto the jersey.  The shoulder patches are screened and then stitched.

ii. Reebok Edge 7187.  Sometimes referred to as the “Edge” or “Edge 1.0” Authentic jerseys.  It is made of Reebok’s water repellent X-trafil fabric.  Unfortunately these jerseys weren’t very favorable with the pros as sweat pooled in the gloves and skates.  Everything on these jerseys will be Z-stitched directly onto the jersey and it comes with a fight strap.  Only a handful of players still wear this style of jersey in the NHL.  The Edmonton Oilers are the last remaining team to use the 1.0 jerseys exclusively.

iii. Reebok Edge 7287.  Aka the Edge 2.0.  Reebok did not want to admit their Edge jerseys were a failure at the pro level so they rolled out the 2.0.  This jersey is only available through the team.  The only way to obtain one is to purchase team issued, game issued, or game worn jerseys.  They are usually not available to the general public.  They are made to look like the Edge 7187 jerseys but they are made of Air-Knit, a material very commonly used in the late 90s and early 2000s.  Again, everything on this jersey will be Z-stitched and it has a fight strap.

iv. Reebok Edge 7231.  Otherwise known as “Indo-Edge.”  When Reebok changed from their RBK Vector to the Wordmark logo they also moved production of their “Authentic” jerseys from Canada to Indonesia, hence the name “Indo-Edge.”  These jerseys will not have a neck tag and can be easily recognized by the bright lime green stripe on the neck line.  Everything on these 7231 jerseys are Z-stitched as well but the quality is not up to par with the 7187/7287 series jerseys.  NHL players do not wear this style of jersey on the ice.

Now onto features you can spot on the exterior of the jersey.  On previous fakes, the cut is totally off.  The bottom hem is normally flat and there are slits on both sides.  You will only find slits on the Reebok Premier 7185 series.  However you can see in this photo the jersey has a coat tail cut on the bottom hem.  This is one of the only fakes I have seen that has reproduced this characteristic well.

On the back of the jersey I can already spot two things that don’t jive.  The “Reebok” wordmark logo above the name plate only appears on the Edge 2.0 (7287) and Indo-Edge (7231) jerseys.  This jersey is a reproduction of the 1.0 and therefore shouldn’t have this logo.  If you take a look at where the fight strap is attached, the piece of twill that attaches the strap to the jersey is off; more on this later.

On most fakes the letters and numbers on the jerseys are either the wrong color or have a significant amount of bubbling.  On these newer knockoffs it seems like they have addressed this issue.

The tags on this fake have also been updated.  Keep in mind Edge jerseys only came in 46, 50, 52, 54, 56, and 60.  You may also find pro issued jerseys in a 58, 58+ or a goal cut.  I have seen many fakes in a size 48.  While Reebok has made size 48s before (for their 6100 series) they have never made one in the Edge cut.

The hang tags are very poorly counterfeited.  Notice the very low quality printing on the middle “MY NHL” tag.  The “Center Ice Collection” tag on the right should also be matte, not glossy.

On the other side of the tags take note of the “Authentique” tag on the left.  On the real jerseys Reebok will place a barcode sticker here.

While this jersey looks close to real on the outside, as soon as you look into the internals of this jersey it becomes very clear that it is fake.

Take the “Reebok” wordmark for example.  The real ones will have a patch with this logo which is then Z-stitched onto the jersey.  Once flipped inside out, you should only be able to see the stitching on the outline of the patch.

Hmm… the wordmark logo looks to be embroidered directly into the jersey.  Reebok does not use this low end embroidery method on the real Edge jerseys.

If you look closely you can also see the amateur-ish stitch job on the front NHL crest.  I briefly learned how to sew in my home economics class and I could’ve done a better job than this.

Flip the jersey inside out again and just look at what a mess this is.  All of the cuts and stitches are rough and look improvised.

The letters and numbers on this fake also have cheap paper backing to accommodate this low quality embroidery.  Like the Reebok wordmark logo you find on the back of the jersey, you should only be able to see stitching with the outline of each individual letter/number.  If you see ANY of this paper backing, it is a fake!

More hideous embroidery.

Note the size of the fight strap and the piece of twill that attaches it to the jersey.  The fight strap is too short (should be ~ 6 to 7″ long) and the piece of twill is too narrow (should be ~ 4″ wide.)

More low quality stitching on the fight strap.  Again, it should be about 4″ wide.  The team issued jerseys will have their fight strap stitched slightly different with two pieces of twill instead of one.

The piece of twill attaching the fight strap to the jersey should be the same color as the jersey.  In this case, it should be royal blue.  Here’s a closer look at the fight strap that is way too short.

Lets now make a comparison to fight straps on some REAL jerseys.  On the left we have a Retail Edge 1.0 size 46 (7187) and on the right we have a Team Issued Edge 2.0 size 56 (7287.)  They are both Vancouver Canucks jerseys, one home and the other is the alternate third.  I find the fight strap lengths are not consistent in length but they are usually around 6″ or 7″.  Notice how the Edge 2.0 has two pieces of twill that sandwiches the fight strap in place.  The Edge 1.0 will not have this feature.

Also take a look at the Z-stitching on the outline of the numbers.  Notice how there is no paper backing anywhere.  This is how a proper jersey is done.

So to summarize, look for a few quick tell tale signs:

i) Are the tags poorly printed?  Does the “Center Ice Authentic” tag have a barcode sticker on the other side?
ii) Inspect the stitching.  Is there any paper backing behind the Reebok logo, letters or numbers?  If it does, it’s a fake.
iii) Is the fight strap and twill the correct size?
iv) Are the letters/numbers puffy or bubbling?

Fakes, counterfeits, knockoffs or whatever you want to call them will continue to evolve as long as there is a demand for them.  The best defense you can have to avoid purchasing these low-grade fakes is to be well educated on what you are buying before you hand your hard earned money over.

I hope this guide has been very informative.  Please feel free to leave any comments or questions below.


– M

– M’s April Pick-Ups

Posted in Pro Returns with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on May 3, 2012 by prostocknation

I picked up a couple things during my recent trip to California.  It’s hard to forget about hockey even during the nice weather.  Expect to see several of these products reviewed on ProStockNation in the near future.


Atlanta Thrashers Tackla 5000 Pro Lowers (Brian from forum):  Also called a “padded shell”, the thing I like about Tacklas are they are compatible with virtually any Upper you pair it up with.  Not only are they pro stock but they are Made in Canada as well, two of my favorite combinations.

SportsStar New York Rangers and Vancouver Canucks Decals: These are probably the closest things most of us will ever come to finding helmet decals on the retail market.  I paired these up with my Vancouver Canucks game worn helmet and the orca logo sizes are roughly the same sans the two tabs but the numbers seem a tad short though.  I wish these came with the NHL shield decal as well since that one seems to be the hardest one to find for most of us in the pro stock collecting hobby.

Bauer Elite Performance Skate Sock (Hockey Monkey): Made in the USA, these will be my first pair of cut resistant skate socks.  On top of being cut resistant they also have the anti-odor and moisture management system called “Thermo-Max+”.  At $30 they are more expensive than traditional skate socks but I was curious as to how they feel like and ultimately, are they worth the money?  (60% Kevlar, 20% Cool-Max, 18% Nylon, 2% Spandex)

Vitalsox (Hockey Monkey): Made in Italy.  During my recent trip to Monkey Sports in Santa Ana, CA I was surprised to see an Italian-made product on their shelves.  They come in various lengths but I went with the crew cut because I like a longer sock for hockey.  They are advertised as an “all sport” sock with cushioning in the forefoot area and padding around the heel.  As with most socks on the market they also offer an anti-bacterial moisture wicking feature; Vitalsox calls this “DryStat.”  They are a little bit more money compared to similar socks from other brands so will it be worth ponying up the extra couple of dollars for being Made in Italy?  (75% Silver Drystat, 10% Microsupreme Acrylic, 10% Nylon, 5% Lycra)

LA Kings Pro Stock Reebok Edge Practice Socks (Jake’s Custom Sports, El Segundo, CA): Made in Canada.  Picked these up at Jake’s.  His shop is a definite must visit if you ever drop by LA.  Jake’s Custom Sports is just a stone’s throw away from LAX.  Try eating at El Pollo Loco while you’re there too.  I couldn’t get enough of that place when I was in California.  Anyways, Jake’s is the place to get any repair work done or if you’re looking for gear (especially used Kings gear.)  The service is top notch as well.  I prefer to wear Pro Stock Reebok Edge socks over the retail ones because the difference in quality is night and day.  The Pro Stock ones will also stick to velcro for all of you who wear jock shorts.

Elite Waxed Laces:  Made in Canada.  I’ve been using these laces religiously for the past couple of years.  They’re less expensive in the States compared to Canada so I might as well pick up a couple pairs while I’m there.  The thing I like about these the most are the molded tips.  Previously, when I used a different brand, the tips breaking were the most common reason for me having to replace my laces.  If your skates have been feeling loose as of late you should give these a shot.  They are $4.99 at most places in Canada.

Tron S10 Visor (HockeyTron):  We’ve had several readers contact us regarding Tron products.  For those of you who are unfamiliar, they sell their own brand of “copycat ” products that are Made in China.  This visor retails for $13.99 in store.  So how does it stack up to the leading competitor’s visor that can be $60 and up?  We will compare the two shortly.

Some of you may recognize these gloves from our previous post on Saturday.  They are Michael Del Zotto from the New York Ranger’s Bauer Supreme ONE95 Pro Returns.  Supremes are one of the tightest fitting gloves on the market and I like the adjustable cuff on the inside.  It provides the user with an option between protection and freedom of movement.

My taste in gloves have definitely changed since starting ProStockNation.  I used to prefer a very loose traditional 4-roll style glove but after using the Vapor XXXX Pro and Vapor X:60 Gloves I’ve started to like tighter-fitting anatomical style gloves.  These feel really nice straight out of the box unlike the retail ONE95 gloves which would continuously rub against my knuckles whenever I opened or closed my hand.  I also wasn’t a fan of the feel of the futuristic-looking/feeling reflex palm that it came with.

Aesthetically I also found the retail version to be not very pleasing to the eyes.  This NYR colorway actually makes it bearable to look at.

More pick-up posts to come!

– M